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How to Win Talon vs Zed Counter MatchupTalon is in the a tier of champions

Talon vs Zed

How to Beat Zed as Talon in LoLTalon is in the b tier of champions
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How to Beat Zed as Talon

based on 3,304 Talon vs Zed matchups
Win Rate
48.9 %
K/D/A
1.99
Pick Rate
4 %

How We Analyze LoL Champion Counters

We at MOBA Champion summarize millions of ranked LoL matches each week. In our data, Talon faced Zed 3304 times. Having so many matchups for Talon versus Zed gives us confidence in our capacity to prepare enlightening stats and a recommended build to defeat Zed. This pairing is fairly uncommon. Talon fights Zed in only 4.0% of his rounds.

Talon vs Zed Matchup Summary

Unfortunately, Talon does a poor job of countering Zed. On average, he wins a acceptable 48.9% of matches the champs face one another in. In Talon against Zed games, Talon’s team is 0.0% more probable to obtain first blood. This indicates that he probably will get first blood against Zed.

Best Talon vs Zed Counter Build

Items

Starter Items

Time Target
Long SwordRefillable Potion

Early Items

~5 Mins
BootsSerrated Dirk

Core Talon Items

~22 Mins
Axiom ArcProfane HydraOpportunity

Optional Items

Black CleaverSerylda's GrudgeEdge of NightHubris

Summoner Spells

summonerflash summoner spell D
summonerdot summoner spell F

Skill Order

First skill for Talon to level upw
>
Second ability for Talon to level upq
>
Last skill for Talon to max oute

Runes

DominationElectrocuteSudden ImpactEyeball CollectionRelentless Hunter
SorceryNimbus CloakAbsolute Focus
Adaptive ForceAdaptive ForceArmor
Talon's passive ability p
Talon's q ability q
Talon's w ability w
Talon's e ability e
Talon's ultimate ability r
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W
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Q
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E
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W
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W
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R
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Guide to Countering Zed as Talon

Tips for Playing as Talon against Zed

Shadow Assault is a powerful escape tool, but can also be offensively used to assault a group.

You can use Assassin's Path to get behind the enemy and set up for Noxian Diplomacy's melee attack.

Remember to pick your target before the fight. Focusing all of Talon's abilities on one target can be very rewarding, but splitting them up between many may leave you helpless.

Advice to Win Against Zed

Zed's Shadow Slash can only slow you if his shadow hits you with it.

Zed receives bonus effect from Attack Damage items he purchases, so Armor is super effective against him.

After Zed uses his Living Shadow, he is at his most vulnerable as his damage, slow, and mobility are both dependent upon it.

Talon vs Zed Counter Stats

Talon Image
Win Rate
48.9 %
VS
Win Rate
51.1 %
Zed Image
8.9
< Kills >
9.4
7.4
< Deaths >
6.8
5.8
< Assists >
5.4
2.03
< Killing Sprees >
2.19
137
< Minions Killed >
162
0.43
< Dragons Killed >
0.25
0.32
< Inhibitors >
0.37
21,529
< Physical Damage >
23,093
83
< Magic Damage >
1,259
1,219
< True Damage >
1,272
22,831
< Damage Dealt >
25,624
28,927
< Damage Taken >
23,448
12,879
< Gold Earned >
12,973
1.4
< Towers >
1.63
0.09
< Baron Takedowns >
0.05
6,483
< Total Healing >
3,832
14,924
< Experience >
15,160
18
< Vision Score >
18
6
< Wards Placed >
7
185
< Time Dealing CC >
147

How to Counter Zed with Talon in LoL

The stats provided here feature several important Talon vs. Zed counter stats that may help us interpret the differences between the pair. For instance, Talon’s KDA ratio ([kills + assists] / deaths) of NaN is more than Zed’s KDA ratio of NaN, showing that Talon may be more central to his team's team fighting potential than Zed..

Talon typically has a similar longest kill spree as his counter does. Commonly, he takes more damage than Zed. This commonly reflects different amounts of tankyness; however, it can also show that the one champion has less agility and thus is unable to flee from additional damage when engaged or poked.

Differences between Talon and Zed

Damage Types Compared

Talon
Zed
Physical Damage
Magic Damage
True Damage

Champion Playstyles Compared

Talon
Zed

Who is Better, Talon or Zed?

Both League of Legends champions are great. Both champs have their pros and cons. In League's current meta, Talon usually loses when trying to fight Zed, with a 48.9% win rate. As a result, Talon makes a poor counter for Zed.

While Talon does have a lower winrate than Zed, when they face off with one another, Talon also has a greater level of difficulty that makes him a more time consuming champ to pick up and master. You still need to be cautious when picking Talon into Zedas his relative depth means you may not be able to reach his full potential without a significant amount of practice beforehand.

Moreover, Talon has almost no amount of utility and CC, a similar amount to Zed. This makes her just as valuable during team fights, especially when fighting champions with a ton of burst damage.

While there is not one best champion in League of Legends, in Talon vs Zed matchups, Zed is the better champ with a lower win rate, similar champion depth, and a similar amount of utility to help out your teammates during team fights.

Talon is a somewhat poor counter to Zed. Focus your play on increasing your CS and destroying objectives. If you do that, you should be able to stand on your own as Talon against Zed.

Additional Information for Talon Players

How We Calculated Our Talon vs Zed Build and Stats

For this guide on countering Zed as Talon, we analyzed 3,304 matchups from recent LoL games. We use rigorous data cleaning and processing methods to ensure that our counter stats are of the highest quality. You can rest assured that the recommended build to counter Zed as Talon comes from real data and is not the fabrication of some random LoL player, as some other sites provide. You can use the filters at the top of the page to view the most relevant stats and items to your rank.

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Further Insights to Win this Matchup

If you would like to truly master Talon in order to counter Zed during both the laning and mid / late game phases of League of Legends, you should keep reading to gather a few extra lessons on this matchup. If you pay attention to the build and stats shown here, you should increase your win rate significantly and be that much closer to League of Legends pro players.

Talon on average gets a similar amount of CS relative to Zed. Champs who typically don't take many minion kills often don't need much CS to be effective, such as support champions. These kinds of champions are capable of scaling well off of their abilities and first items alone. Yet, champions with a lot of CS, such as hyper-carries, typically have to have many items to be effective. In either situation, try to surpass the numbers reported on this page to do well.

The most crucial items to focus on in your Talon versus Zed build consist of Axiom Arc, Profane Hydra, and Opportunity. When Talon incorporated at least these three items in his build, he performed significantly better when fighting Zed than with most other typical builds. In fact, Talon boasted an average win rate of 48.9% when playing against Zed with this counter build.

To have the highest probability of beating Zed as Talon, you should use the Electrocute, Sudden Impact, Eyeball Collection, Relentless Hunter, Nimbus Cloak, and Absolute Focus runes from the Domination and Sorcery rune sets. Of all the rune sets we have analyed for Talon vs Zed matchups, this mix of runes yielded the best win rate. Moreover, these runes averaged a 48.9% win rate overall.

If you would like to see Talon versus Zed tips and counter builds for a an individual rank, feel free to choose one from the selection menu displayed above. At first, the statistics and strategies given are computed using every game run with both champions.